28 February, 2016

Introduction to some rules of golf via Fred February 28th 2016


Court-on          Intro to        Rules of Golf


The game of golf is a game over a fixed sequence of holes, playing a ball from each teeing ground by a stroke or a series of strokes to the respective hole in accordance with the rules. The game is played in one of two basic formats, Strokeplay or Match play. Other than a maximum of 14 clubs and conforming golf balls in competitions there are three basic considerations: -

1.      Through the green, other than with the Club when taking a stance or playing the stroke, the ball shall not be touched unless it’s position is first marked prior to application of a ruling that permits the touching/lifting of a ball.

2.      No player shall take any action to influence the position of the ball or the movement of the ball, except in the latter case, when making a stroke.

3.      Differences in the application of some rules and consequential penalties exist between Match play and Strokeplay formats, therefore you cannot justify play in a Strokeplay competition and combine the play to achieve a Match play result.

Knowledge of the Rulebook is an essential part of the competitive golf as it promotes equity and fairness into the game, having made this statement there are on occasions in order to achieve fairness, apparent contradictions within the R&A decisions. Such apparent anomalies may generate discussion, but do not give license for a player or fellow competitor to formulate their own interpretation. Some members may find the rule book with its cross references difficult to follow, such players may find it most helpful to at least read the most overlooked and disregarded chapter within the rulebook marked Definitions. It is arguable that this “Definitions” chapter is the most important to be familiar with, as by itself is capable of resolving many situations.

Hence to some players the rules seem finicky, irrelevant or too complicated, it should be remembered the rules are devised, under constant review and worded in order to maintain consistency in all corners of the globe.
Unfortunately this equity and fairness is only valid if each and every one of us has an effective understanding and honest application of the rules. Hence it should be understood by each of us that when applying rules, such equity and fairness should be in respect of other competitors rather than the individual who may feel he or she is being punished.

Many scorecards return a score that may have penalties omitted due to a number of reasons, therefore to achieve an accurate scorecard return we need to ask “what does Equity and fairness mean; has the correct score been applied correctly to the hole played” for example,  a player may loosely apply a rule and consider  a position for relief on the basis it should enhances the prospects of the next shot and not specifically with regard to the obstruction from which relief is permitted under the rules.
Such action does not correspond to the spirit of intent that motivated the ruling or definition that has allowed a relief situation to be applied. 
In such a case, the position chosen would not be equitable and could be construed as a player enhancing his relief to gain advantage over and above that intended within the rules and consequently detrimental to the other competitors within a competition.

The offending player should be penalised under ruling 20.7 for playing from the wrong place (generally) or if the breach is considered serious disqualified if not corrected.

We need to encourage players to adopt an understanding that relief is specifically relevant to the object of consideration and does not consider anything other than the object that may be adjacent nor in line of sight, hence does not necessarily create a personal advantage. If, under an appropriate rule a relief situation is taken, then swallow the medicine resulting from that relief by applying relief correctly.

It is obvious that some competitors choose to avoid confrontation, maybe due to a weakness in understanding the rulebook or embarrassment, fail to challenge situations or discuss them during play. This statement is supported by conversations often overheard at the 19th hole at a time when it is too late for committee or indeed a competitor to correct error prior to the closure of a competition. Unfortunately the outcome allows lower scores being posted inadvertently, a score that should otherwise have several penalty shots added.
So how are we able to improve?
Discuss the situation; follow the correct interpretation and application of the appropriate rules during the play of competition. If in doubt, elect to play two balls to complete the hole. Rule 3.3 then ask for ruling on completion.


Once into play, more for you to remember: -


  1. When a ruling permits relief from a situation that interferes with a player stance or swing, a free drop(not nearer the hole) is permitted marked within one club length from the nearest point of relief.

  1. If a ball is unplayable, one option is a penalty drop is marked within 2 club lengths (not nearer the hole) from the position in which the ball lays unplayable. Or on an imaginary line starting from the flag of the hole in play and passing through the position of the unplayable ball, drop a ball on this line. You may go back on this line as far as you wish. Or drop a ball as near as possible at the spot from where you last played (stoke and distance).

A dropped ball is valid if it is dropped and comes to rest within these guidelines, otherwise redropped: -

    • The player concerned shall stand upright and at arm’s length, from shoulder height allow the ball to drop freely without influence.
    • The ball shall strike the ground within the marked area.
    • The ball shall not strike the ground and move closer to the hole than the marker, after striking the ground but may move and come to rest within 2 further club lengths not nearer the hole.
    • Does not come to rest in a hazard

If the two club length option is taken and a valid penalty drop  not achieve a position to play the ball, then a further penalty drop is required until a playable position is achieved.


  1. Play the ball as it Lies; The ball must be fairly stuck at;
  2. A ball has moved if it comes to rest in a new position;
  3. Preferred lays, if permitted, may be taken once only at each location.
  4. Ink your own ID on each ball and every ball you play

Finally, apply any action you consider will minimise slow play:- walking briskly between shots; contemplation and evaluation of you next shot and/or club selection whilst waiting on others playing first: mark score cards without slowing your progress, for example, at the next tee when others in the group are teeing off.

               



25 February, 2016

Seniors Pairs both scores to count February 25th 2016



Today's event was a Pairs, Both Scores to Count. 44 players turned out, making 22 pairs. Results were:
1st - Chris Jacques and Steve Monk, with 77 points.

2nd - Roy Jordan and Peter Almond, with 69 points and a better back 9 than....

3rd -  Noel Jones and Malcolm Williams, also with 69 points.

4th - Bob Brown and Harold Hughes, with 68 points.


5th - Ron Roberts and Peter Lynch, with 67 points.

24 February, 2016

Seniors events for March 2016


COMPETITIONS - 
MARCH 2016

DATE

KITTY COMPS – in BLUE
OTHER COMPS – in BLACK

COMMENTS


Tuesday
Mar 1st
ST. DAVID’S DAY COMP.
With Lunch / Trophy /Prizes/ Ball Sweep
Ind. Stableford
Trophy donated by Mr Roy Jones.
Entry in advance
Thursday
Mar 3rd
MARCH MEDAL
Stableford
Draw on board -  late entries see Don Wraight
Tuesday
Mar 8th
WINTER LEAGUE
ROUND 5 of 6
Individual Stableford
Thursday Mar 10th
MATCH vs MOLD (Home)
Players not in match book a tee

Tuesday
Mar 15th
MATCH vs HOLYWELL (Home)
Players not in match book a tee

Thursday Mar 17th
ST. PATRICK’S DAY COMP.
Teams of 4. With Lunch / Prizes etc.
Incorporating
The Ray Mortell Trophy
Entry in advance
Tuesday
Mar 22nd
WINTER LEAGUE
ROUND 6 of 6
Individual Stableford
Thursday Mar 24th
WALTZ for Home players
Also Away MATCH vs UPTON

Tuesday
Mar 29th
 PAIRS BETTERBALL


Thursday
Mar 31st
YELLOW BALL
(The Original – 4,5,4,5)



23 February, 2016

Seniors Texas Scramble February 23rd 2016


With Spring in the air a large number of Seniors played today including some guys who have been away for some time due to medical/surgical issues. Good to see them back.

The course was starting to dry out nicely and only 3 temporary greens today on the 2nd, 11th and 16th

Results as follows:-


  1. Bill Kelleher, Stewart Poole, Andy Mitchell and yet again Barry Dare   58.3
  2. Richard Key, Maelor Davies, Derek Lyon and the big hitter Chris Jaques  61.1
  3. Steve Beech, Frank Rodenhurst, Steve Monk and Nigel Davies (Seniors Captain)  61,7

Prior the the competition a presentation took place! Tom McGrady, recently back from his Caribbean Cruise was presented with a Liverpool FC pitch mark repairer by Richard Key on the 1st tee



Approaching the 9th green in the sunshine


                                 Below a video of Richard Key putting for his teams par.


22 February, 2016

Free relief position via Fred February 22nd 2016

23rd February 2016. Free relief position.


I’m lucky I can get free relief from this sapling, so I shall establish relief here and then I get a clear shot to the green missing that big tree!

Check! And Check again!



Free relief is the nearest position the ball would lie such that using the club you would expect to use for your next stroke, the interference that gives relief does not exist.
Clearly not the position of the club-head, and a club length to position “B”
For a right-handed player the nearest point of relief is point “C” with one club length to point “D. The large tree has no influence on this analysis the player in the sketch is playing from the wrong place and subject to the appropriate penalty. The Sheriff

2 shot penalty in Seniors Competitions. Latest news from Committee



Two Shot Penalties.

Your committee has reviewed the discussion point of applying a two shot penalty to winners of a Kitty Competition. Mindful of the Congu rules and also the Fun/Social aspects of such competitions the findings from that review are:-

The main purpose for the application of a two shot penalty in “Kitty Competitions” is to reduce the probability of a “player on form” securing a long series of winning, thereby equalise as far as practical the opportunities for others to win a “Kitty competition”.
The Committee also recognise the unique situation of the “Winter League”, which as well as being a competitive series, is in itself also a “Kitty Competition”.
Therefore the Committee have concluded/confirmed thatShot penaltiesshall be applied to every winner in a Kitty Competition and applied on a once only basis by the player at their next Kitty Competition except if the player wins this competition the penalties are retained and a further “Two Shot penalty” added and applied to the subsequent “Kitty Competition entry, however we agree that Penalty Shots will not be taken into a “Winter League Event” but shall be taken out of the Winter League by the winner.

With the above exception for going into a Winter League event, “Penalty Shots” shall be applied to all Kitty Competitions winners of both single and group events and applied to their next Kitty Competition played regardless of single or a group event.

Example:- A player with 2 or more accumulated penalties shots from Previous Kitty Competition wins shall, as with all other players, score the “Winter League” off their “Congu Handicap”.
Should the player win in this event then the “Kitty Competition” aspect kicks in and earns a two shot penalty which shall be added to any penalty Shots accumulated and applied to their next Kitty Competition?

The final point on this issue is the administration. Keeping tabs on it is most difficult due to varying frequency of member attendance; therefore we consider the system to be a system of total trust. Steve will post a list advising members of their penalty with the date applied and each player is expected to amend the list indicating the date the penalties were taken.



On behalf of the Committee. Fred Court

18 February, 2016

Seniors 9X3 9X2 FEBRUARY 18TH 2016



Derek is indebted to Steve Monk for providing todays report, Derek was elsewhere in North Wales!

Lovely day for golf today, with woodpeckers heard for the first time this year on the 4th fairway (1st time for Steve  at least) and a multiple-bird chorus on the 6th green in an otherwise silent sunny world. Superb.

Todays golf was changed from the scheduled Pairs Betterball to '9x3 plus 9x2' instead. 46 players played in 2 x 3 balls and 10 x 4 balls.

Winners were:
4-ball comp.
1st - Don Wraight, Fred Court, John Davis and Steve Monk with 111 points.

2nd - Brian Downes, Richard Key, Terry Keen and Roy Jordan with 108 points
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3rd - Andy Mitchell, Tony Owens, Bill Kelleher and Harold Hughes with 100 points
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3-ball comp.

1st - John Kelty, Ian Ketland and Malcolm Williams with 80 points.

16 February, 2016

Seniors Winter League round 4 February 16th 2016


It was a bitterly cold day with temperatures around the 1-2 c mark for most of the morning. Greens were often frozen for the most part and temporary greens in play on the 8th and 11th

43 players
1st - Graham Stokes, with 41 stableford points, and 10 points in the league.
2nd - Maelor Davies, 38 points, 9 league points.
3rd - Mike Goring, 37 points, 8 league points.
4th - Tom Pierce, 37 points, 7 league points.
5th - Mike Drake, 37 points, 6 league points.
6th - Chris Jacques, 36 points, 5 league points.
7th - Stewart Poole, 36 points, 4 league points.
8th - Barry Dare, 36 points, 3 league points.
9th - Ian Ketland, 36 points, 2 league points.
10th - Phil Morris, 35 points, 1 league point.

    SENIORS WINTER LEAGUE 2016
Standings after Round 4
Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Total Points
Frank Rodenhurst 10 9 9 28
Mike Goring 10 5 8 23
Barry Dare 8 6 3 17
Tom Pierce 8 7 15
Tony Harcombe 5 6 11
Ernie Williams 7 3 10
Malcolm Williams 3 7 10
Dave Palferman 10 10
Graham Stokes 10 10
Colin Brown 9 9
Mike Turner 1 8 9
Maelor Davies 9 9
Tony Jackson 6 2 8
Fred Court 7 7
Mike Drake 6 6
Derek Lyon 5 5
Phil Morris 4 1 5
Chris Jacques 5 5
Ron Roberts 4 4
Ralph Hardy 4 4
Stewart Poole 4 4
Peter Almond 3 3
John Davis 2 2
Roy Jordan 2 2
Ian Ketland 2 2
Bill Parrish 1 1
Peter Lynch 1 1


Some photos and videos on the day below:

Malcolm Williams teeing off on the 7th

Dave Palferman teeing off on the 7th

Nigel Davies showing how one should tee off on the 7th

About to take 2nd shots on the 7th

Steve Monk doing a sterling job announcing results and winners

The winner Graham Stokes getting up to receive winnings for coming first. Well done








12 February, 2016

SLOW play comments from Mike Jones Club Captain


Nigel Davies, Seniors Captain has asked for this to be put on the Seniors Blog. Nigel indicates emphasising that in no way are we trying to teach our grandma to suck eggs but that there may be things in there that we could all benefit from?

Some suggestions from Mike Jones (Club Captain) to increase the pace of play and avoid slow rounds :

On the tee, if it's you to go first or second, mark your card after you've teed off, be ready to play, club selected, ball and tee in hand ready to go.

Spotting balls: watch all the balls being teed off and make a mental note of a reference point of where it has ended up; which tree, branch, marker etc. Two seconds extra spotting can save 5 mins looking (and a lost ball). Did it bounce, did it plug etc? Walk directly on the line of flight to the ball, you'll have a much better chance of finding it on that line.

Once found put your bag just to the right (for a RH player) then you won't have to move it when you set up to play, and if you change club or wipe your club it's there just one step away.

Be ready to play, practice swings and pre shot shuffles etc. Your partner plays, you say good shot or otherwise and then you play.

When at the green, take your trolley to the side of the green where the next tee is, you will only walk 10 -15 yards sideways then be away, rather than leaving it at the front before the white line, otherwise, you finish playing, walk 25 - 30yards back to your trolley, then 30- 40 yards to clear away from the green. Twice the mileage, twice the time.

Putting: be ready to putt, choose your line and clean your ball, repair a pitch mark while someone else is putting (while observing etiquette, out of sight etc.). If you just miss and are able to finish off and putt out, do so, to save having to come back and re-set and ask who's honour it is.


Simple maths calculation: if a group of 4 players saved 10 seconds per shot each, averaging 5 shots per hole, that is 200 seconds per hole ...  x 18 holes equals 3600 seconds or 60 minutes ... changing a near 5 hour round to 4 hours or less.

11 February, 2016

LAH LAH Competition February 11th 2016


This was the second time the event was played. This time though it was played as pairs stableford. For the rules please go back to the last time it was played a few weeks ago. Only 13 holes open today with holes 2, 6, 7, 16 and 17 closed. Not only that but there were some more temporary greens, on the 8th and the 10th,
Results:

    1.  Mike Goring and Dave Palferman 39 points

    2. Tony Owens and Brian Downes  37 points

    3. Bill Hughes and Peter Fraser   36 points     on count back

    4. Mike Drake and Roy Jordan  36 points

    5. Bob Brown and Dave Jones  35 points


Barry Dare found himself with a difficult shot out of a bunker on the 5th

Temporary green on 8th fairway. Nigel Davies managed a gross birdie

Barry Dare taking his 3rd shot on the 8th watched by partner Nigel Davies

View across from 11th tee towards the Council men working on 10th fairway where the tee was on a temporary green some 20 metres on the left

09 February, 2016

WALTZ Competition January 9th 2016



Steve Monk introduced this new event today and prior to teeing off explained the rules
The waltz dance goes 1, 2 3 and then repeats the steps. Hence in this game format the highest team score on first hole is carded, followed by best 2 scores on second hole and then finally best 3 scores on next hole. This pattern in then repeated till the end of the game...easy and very enjoyable.

There were only 13 holes in play with holes 2, 6,7, 16 and 17 closed
There were teams of 3 and teams of 4. Results:-

3 ball team winners were Reg Taylor, Ernie Williams and fresh back from his Australian holiday Ron Roberts. They carded 58 points

4 ball winners were Derek Lyon, Peter Lynch, Barry Dare and Mike Drake  63 points
Runners up were Tony Owens, Brian Downes, Alan Pocklington and Paul White with 62 points.

04 February, 2016

Latest list of rules from Fred starting at the beginning

Derek apologies that the 2 photos which should be below are missing due to technical problems. However if you go back to previous posts you will find them!



3rd February 2016 on the green. Let’s have a closer look at our activity on the green many of which account for missed penalties applied during a round of golf. I am not sure if the Americans would call them a “Misdemeanour” or a “Felon” Let us start with the careless damage to the hole which results from fishing your ball out of the hole with the putter-head not in itself a golfing breach but a lack of consideration to the ground staff and fellow competitors.
Unfortunately many are not aware of situations when a penalty is to be applied such as: -
Straddling you line of putt whilst putting; (standing across with one foot either side of your line of putt and playing a croquet-style stroke)
Failing to mark your ball before touching it to align on your direction of putt, or prior to lifting the ball.
The rules may seem petty, but again, which rule do you wish to ignore today or tomorrow. What a chaotic game we would have if we all applied this approach. Please apply the rules regardless of your thoughts and maintain a level playing field.
Conversely, one area of play on the green where penalties are incorrectly applied and accepted without question is in Match-play. When putting on the green and your ball strikes another ball on the green and in play, the two shot penalty should be applied in Stroke-play only not in Match-play (Rule 19.5a). Sheriff
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23rd January 2016 dropping the Ball.  Let’s have a look at the correct way to drop your ball. How often have you seen someone throw their ball out of a hazard or replacement ball casually to the ground, then proceed to play the ball as it lies. If rules allow a dropped ball a dropped ball shall be from shoulder height, shall strike the ground within the permitted marked position it may bounce and travel up to two clubs lengths not nearer the hole and is a valid drop except if it comes to rest as in the illustrations. Failure to comply is a penalty situation
When taking permitted free relief within the rules your ball shall be dropped to stick the ground with the nearest point of relief plus one club length. Where is the nearest point of relief you may ask.
The nearest point of relief is defined as the nearest position the ball would lay in order for the condition permitting relief would not exist.
Dropping your ball under this rule shall be as above you are not permitted to consider other conditions which could influence you next play.


The nearest point of relief is a reference to the issue enabling relief regardless of other influences.
On occasions you may see the nearest point of relief corrupted by a player because playing from the correct point of relief has a tree is in the way for the next stroke.
 Markers should point out this error which, if ignored the player has played from the wrong place and the appropriate penalty applies to hiss score for the hole.
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15th January 2016. Which golfing rule would you like to ignore? And I do not necessarily mean your own play. The answer should of course be none.
So often little rules are overlooked by players and the point I am making is the fact that some players may make an innocent mistake but their markers who may be aware, fail to point out the mistake and advise the player he has erred and apply the penalty to the players score for the hole.
For example, take the following rule  Once your Ball is in play, except with your club at address and making the stroke, you are not allowed to touch your ball unless you have advised your marker you are implementing an appropriate Rule, you must then mark the position your ball before lifting and applying the rule.
This is also true when identifying your ball through the green, also when on the green, so many, having failed to mark their ball first, bend down and align the ball marking to their line of putt, you should apply a penalty shot for touching the ball. (Bear in mind marking the ball position with the putter head is permitted).
This action may seem petty but elsewhere somebody in a similar situation may be applying the rule and subsequent penalty, and in doing so your player effectively, now has a stroke advantaged compared the player who applied the penalty. Please apply ruling as they occur and not as you see fit. I have often heard “you would not have lost that shot if Fred was not with us,” let us hear instead what would we do in this situation if Fred (or Don) were with us. Sheriff
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9th January 2016 Loose impediments. A member advised he was confused as to whether worm casts were loose impediments; each in our group had a different solution. Unfortunately the correct answer may be just as confusing.
Loose impediments are defined as natural objects including Stones; leaves; twigs and the like.
Dung and insects and also the casts and heaps made by them are loose impediments provided (and here is the crunch for your decision) they are not fixed or growing, solidly embedded or adhered to the ball.
Sand and loose soils are loose impediment on the putting green but not elsewhere. Snow and natural ice, other than frost are either Casual water or loose impediments, (the players Option). Sheriff
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December 2015 Pitch mark repair. A New Year resolution, why not “pitch mark” repairs. You may have noticed the brown spots on the greens, strangely close to the size of a golf ball.
My theory is they are Ball pitch marks left then flattened with the next mowing or incorrectly repaired.
Try for yourself, a ball pitch mark repaired by placing your fork into the pitch hole and lifting the centre as in “A” in the diagram after levelling with your putter you are left with an earthen spot.





                                                                                                                                                               Now try another Ball pitch mark repair by placing your fork into the surround of the Pitch mark as in “B” in the diagram and force the elevated surround back over into the depression, when completed tap down gently with your putter to level off and admire the difference, a green area unblemished. Sheriff. 
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2nd December 2015 Bunkers and Hazards    It has been brought to my attention that some members are not aware that if you ball lies in a Bunker or Hazard you are subject to a penalty should you ground your club prior to the forward movement of the club when striking the ball.

In answer to another query, A ball coming to rest in its own pitch mark on the lip-edge of a water hazard is in the hazard. By definition a ball is in the hazard if it lies in or touches the hazard. Be mindful that the boundaries of a water hazard include the vertical extension area above the hazard.   Hence if your ball should come to rest against the marker post, your ball is in the hazard. Sheriff
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13th November 2015 Preferred Lies.                        We are well into the season of preferred lies on the Golf Course. Often heard these days, a member shouting across “are we on Preferred Lies”? A message that should be posted on the notice board at the club is the finite answer. But do we understand what the message means?
 First we have “Preferred lies in operation today”
This means that if your ball comes to rest on any close mown area you may (once only) prefer your lie by marking your ball lifting, cleaning and replacing within 6 inches not nearer the hole. The close mown area is in principle the fairway but may include areas close mown such as a pathway cut from tee to fairway etc.
“Winter Rules apply today” means you may prefer your lie in close mown areas as above and also mark, lift and clean your ball if it is plugged in the rough, then dropped as coce as possible to its original position but no nearer the hole
“Preferred Lies through the green” means as it says through the green is the playing area of the course excluding hazards, tees and greens, you may prefer you lie. Hope this helps.

So to a new question, you may have noticed that for valid reasons, the orientations of some fairway have changed, we now have rough encroaching into the fairway and in front of some bunkers and also the ditches on the 14th and 15th.  A reminder that these areas are not close mown, before going out on the course check which sign is posted to ensure preferring your lie is allowed. Sheriff
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6th November 2015 Improving your Lie       We have all been there, a ball pulled or pushed into the tree line. Finding our ball under the trees with a dubious back swing and passing a comment to your colleagues “If it was your ball it would not have ended up in this position”. And so to the point, which is that during this time of the year in particular, a reminder to take more care and attention to avoid improving your stance or lie as I witnessed last week.
Upon taking his stance and addressing his ball a player took his back swing and caught the branches a shower of leaves fell off the branch and he checked his back-swing. Re addressed the ball and played the ball. It may seem unfair but he had improved his Lie and two penalty shots should be applied by his marker in this situation.
After dislodging the leaves, had the player continued with the stroke, and played the ball then no penalty can be applied. Reference Rule 13

Provisional ball or not, another player played his 2nd shot on the 15th and pulled the ball left into the tree line; he walked forward and had a brief look in the leaf covered area, then declared he would play a provisional ball and walked back and played a second ball. He then walked forward again, this time leaves had moved in the breeze and his ball was visible. He continued play of the hole with the original ball.
By walking forward to search he was not entitled to return and correctly play a provisional ball, in doing so he played the wrong ball and incurred a two shot penalty. - Sheriff
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29th August 2015 Lost Ball?  Sheriff writes. Perhaps it is splitting hairs but I often hear players say that “I declare the ball lost”. I don’t know of this expression being in the rule book, The correct statement has the same result “I declare the ball unplayable”.
When then is a ball lost? by definition a ball is lost if it is not found and identified within 5 Minute of a search. Stroke and distance being the option for a lost ball. If a provisional ball had been played this becomes the ball in play.

A player may declare his ball unplayable at anytime on the course. He may then proceed with the following option (1)“stroke and distance” (play from where last played): (2) Penalty Drop a ball within two club length of the ball’s position when declared unplayable or (3) on an imaginary line from the flag through the ball position and drop a ball on that line, In all cases not nearer the hole. 

This procedure is often misused on the 8th where a ball flights into the hedge on the left and comes to rest well down the bank. From such a position it is virtually impossible to drop a ball within two club length on the 8th side of the hedge. To avoid walking back for stroke and distance the only options left are (2) on the 7th side of the hedge should conditions be met or (3) playing on a line from somewhere on the 7th fairway.
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16th August 2015 Sheriff blogs 3:- the last information  referred to hole 17, an issue has been  raised suggesting the possibility of a local rule which may relax the situation, however the possibility is open to interpretation, therefore I have sort clarification, my only response so far is that they will review my email.
Enough said for the moment, let’s move back on the course to hole no 7. You play your 2nd shot toward the green and the ball entered the ditch on the right of the pond and continued up the bank into the wood.
The wood is Out of Bounds therefore you are required to “play stroke and distance” you should not walk forward and drop a ball near the hazard, using Rule 26 for justification.
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28th July 2015. Sheriff asks:- what is a provisional ball?
Answer, a ball played under rule 27-2 for a ball that may be lost outside a hazard or out of bounds.
Often noted, players playing our 17th at Clays their tee shot played to the green is sometimes difficult to see that plash of a ball entering the pond. Player walks forward to the pond and announce they will play a provisional ball then walk around to check if their ball has in fact cleared the pond.
Any player following this procedure then finding their ball clear of the pond is subject to a two stroke penalty for playing the wrong ball (the ball incorrectly played as a provisional). In this situation a provisional ball should not be played. You must be virtually certain your ball entered the pond, if there is doubt the best procedure at the 17th is to walk around and search making sure your ball is in the pond then back and take your penalty drop.
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10th July 2015.            The sheriff writes:-      So your tee shot from the 15th finds the ditch near the bridge. Most retrieve their ball and drop on a line closer to the tee. Not strictly correct, but why not use the rule correctly and give yourself a better chance:-
Take an imaginary line from the 15th pin, drawn through the point at which your ball crossed into the hazard then follow this line back, diagonal to the fairway then, under a penalty, drop on this line. This gives a better chance to clear the corner and save a shot with subsequent play of the hole.

28th July 2015. Sheriff asks:- what is a provisional ball?
Answer, a ball played under rule 27-2 for a ball that may be lost outside a hazard or out of bounds.
Often noted, players playing our 17th at Clays their tee shot played to the green is sometimes difficult to see that plash of a ball entering the pond. Player walks forward to the pond and announce they will play a provisional ball then walk around to check if their ball has in fact cleared the pond.
Any player following this procedure then finding their ball clear of the pond is subject to a two stroke penalty for playing the wrong ball (the ball incorrectly played as a provisional). In this situation a provisional ball should not be played. You must be virtually certain your ball entered the pond, if there is doubt the best procedure at the 17th is to walk around and search making sure your ball is in the pond then back and take your penalty drop.









Seniors February 2016 medal. February 4th 2016



The weather today was quite nice with temperatures around 13c...hence some good scores were carded

Division 1
2Poole, Stewart40 pts (17)Division 1 - Winner
3Williams, Ernest40 pts (13)Division 1 - Runner-Up
9Davies, Nigel35 pts (13)
12Palferman, David35 pts (12)
13Kelleher, William Bill35 pts (12)


Stewart's recent holiday in Tenerife done him the world of good. Well done.

Division 2
1Dare, Barry43 pts (25)Division 2 - Winner
4Lynch, Peter39 pts (21)Division 2 - Runner-Up
5Davies, Maelor37 pts (20)
6Jordan, Roy37 pts (20)
7Stokes, Graham37 pts (25)
8Jarvis, Robert37 pts (20)

The following player(s) returned Twos or better in this competition:

HolePlayerScore
2White, Paul2
2Williams, Ernest2
5Harcombe, Tony2
5Jarvis, Robert2
12Harcombe, Tony2
17Lyon, Derek G2


KEN LAWRENCE MEMORIAL TROPHY 2024

The Ken Lawrence Memorial Trophy was initially postponed this time last year and eventually cancelled altogether because of course closure. ...