13 August, 2020

Seniors 9x3 and 9x2 August 13th 2020

  Another scorcher today and the weather wasn't bad either! 38 senior members took part and the banter began to flow from the first tee. The cards came in and a number of tail-enders enjoyed a pint, with sensible distancing, on the terrace afterwards. Eight four-ball groups had only 10 points between them, ranging from 88 to 98. We also had two three-balls who faced their own separate battle. A number of players scored 30 points plus, but of note - Alan Barnsdale (37 points) and Senior Captain Barry Dare posted 40 points with 24 on the back 9. 

(9x3) plus (9x2) Result:


First: Don Wraight, Dave Jones, Tony Owens, Mike Turner   (98 points)   -   £5.00 each

Second: Graham Bryne, Keith Hawthorn, Dave Fergus, Bill Kelleher   (97 points)     -    £3.00 each


First: Barry Dare, Ken Tieszen, Neville Bassett     (87 points)     -     £2.00 each

Next Week: Many of you know already about Clays club entries into the Priors Hayes Senior Open. In effect, it is taking 36 members away from Clays including me. I am opening up my e-mail communication between now and Monday mid-day, if you are not involved in the Open and wish to come down to Clays for a Kitty Comp, which I will organise and leave set-up for you. The numbers will obviously be low and to be fair to management, we will have to surrender the later tees so please get back to me asap if you wish to partake. The Comp will be run in three-balls (to be decided).

One more thing of note - you probably realised after last night's incorrect Starter sheet that e-mails alone are swamping me, so Steve Monk has kindly offered to take over the money management side. He will deduct £1.00 for every entry and add whatever prize money is announced after the results are published. Again all monies will be resolved (in envelopes) at the very first opportunity of us getting back together again. 

Today - we managed to get there despite (initially) the wrong Starter sheet - well done again and see you next week.

Some photos of the day below courtesy of David Jones.

The following photos were kindly provided by Mike Healey

12 August, 2020

Bonus Ball August 11th 2020

Sincere thanks to Mike Healey for submitting the results of the competition today.

What a glorious day for golf and the forecast thunder and lightning mysteriously failed to appear. No fewer than 43 members took part in our renewed Kitty Comp Bonus Ball, with tight finishes on both sides of the event

The Bonus Ball Result:

Three Ball Comp:

First - Mick Carnell, Dave Palferman and Stewart Poole with 138 points (Money adjustment = +£4.00 each)

Second - Steve Monk, Tony Jackson and Ken Tieszen with 127 points (Money adjustment = +£1.00 each)

Four Ball Comp: 

First - Dave A Jones, Peter Fraser, John Falcus and Mike Healey with149 points (Money adjustment = +£5.00 each)

Second - Irwin Elkin, Mike Drake, Tony Owens, and Keith Jones with 148 points (Money adjustment = +£2.00 each)

08 August, 2020

Seniors Medal August 6th 2020

Division 1

  1. Ernie Williams  84-16-68
  2. Tony Jackson 88-17-71
  3. Martin Povey 82-11-71

Division 2 

  1. Mike Turner 91-21-70
  2. Harold Hughes 92-22-70
  3. Colin Evans 104-33-71

06 August, 2020

Seniors Memorial Day Stableford Tuesday August 4th 2020

  1. Don Wraight 39 points
  2. Jonathan Falcus 38 points
  3. David Palferman 38 points
  4. Andrew Mitchell 36 points
  5. Barry Dare 35 points
  6. Neville  Bassett 35 points
  7. John Kelty 35 points
  8. Ron Roberts 34 points
  9. Graham Bryne 34 points
  10. David Talbot 34 points

03 August, 2020

Captains Newsletter July 2020

Captains Newsletter


Your Captains latest newsletter is now available for your viewing. Simply click the link above to view it online.

30 July, 2020

Letter from Barry Dare reference Seniors Section July 30th 2020

Senior Kitty Competitions

Good Morning Everyone – You are receiving this e-mail as a member of the Senior section at Clays with a view to re-commence Kitty Competitions.

We believe they are the lifeblood of the section and that it is the best way of getting new members involved in our section.

Our dedicated Tuesday and Thursday morning tee times remain essential to the Seniors and the following is our proposal for returning to something closer to the normal. It is worth bearing in mind that this virus has not gone away and caution is still the operative word in all actions around the golf course.

Some members may not wish to rush back immediately to four ball golf in Kitty Competitions – that is entirely up to the individual and we completely understand. We look forward to welcoming you back as soon as you are ready.

The Senior committee have debated at length on how we may safely re-introduce Kitty Comps for those members who do wish to participate. We have already started by Don pre-booking all Tuesday and Thursday mornings for our normal Seniors block tee times, beginning on the 11th August. You will already have had notice of the Memorial Trophy on the 4th August and Senior medal on the 6th August. This facilitates a resumption of Kitty comps. to follow on.

Let me apologise for the length of the following but if you read it thoroughly, you will notice that ultimately, the changes we have made are around single timed tee starts, score checking away from the club, pre-payment of kitty money with winnings held in the kitty and all remaining within current guidelines. It would be prudent for all members to re-read the management guidelines, especially concerning illness on the course (ie ring 999 not reception – lack of PPE etc).

Enjoy Reading and Playing soon



How will it work:

In line with the current ban on large gatherings and distancing, our normal tally draw is a non-starter – even meeting on the car park would cause problems. After a great deal of deliberation, we are proposing that those wishing to join the Kitty Comps. would advise Mike Healey via e-mail (preferable) or phone the day before the comps. by 4.00pm Monday and 4.00pm Wednesday. Contact details:

mjhealey@talk21.com or    07716 527332

Anyone not on e-mail would have to buddy up with someone who is able to get the information to and from Mike or alternatively ring. 


Mike will make the draw at home from entries received but will be strict with the cut-off time of 4.00pm on the previous day.

The game format will be decided in advance and can be found on the attached monthly calendar.  The random draw and tee times will then be e-mailed back as a Starter sheet to all members (whether playing or not). It would be up to everyone who has expressed an intention to play, to check the Starter sheet for tee time, who they are playing with and more importantly, turn up having committed.

Mike will arrive before the first tee and post the Starter sheet for checking (in case some members forget). Respective groups of players should make their way to the first tee in good time, but leaving a ten-minute gap between groups, keeping a social distance from each other and also from other groups. There are no starts from 14 or 16 at present.


Scorecards will be left outside Reception for collection prior to the round.

Ideally there should be one scorer (unless pairs). Scorers must be accurate, include all handicaps and record as clearly as possible, whether it is two/three or four ball. Try your best to be accurate and write results clearly as Mike will be sorting out all results at home – no chance of questioning scribble/omissions etc.

Completion of Round:

A Seniors box will be left under the sanitising table in the foyer.

Mike normally goes out first but will be placed in a later group and collect the cards (with gloves) at the end.

The Starter sheet will be left by the box and should be ticked as you drop the completed card(s), indicating that all groups are back at the clubhouse.

At home, Mike will oversee all scores, place in order and advise all Seniors before the end of the day of their individual/team results via e-mail. Results will also be posted to the Senior’s Blog.

Money for Kitty Comps

Once again, social distancing and group meetings make collection difficult, so in order to minimize the handling of cash, members would become eligible for inclusion by paying for their first 10 comps all together, up front. The competitions of choice do not have to be played consecutively. Please place a £10.00 note into an envelope marked:

Seniors Kitty Competitions

Name: Tiger Jones

Tally Number:  136

A Seniors box has been left in reception with a list for management to tick off on receipt.

The deadline for the 11th August Kitty comp. entry is Sunday 9th August for envelopes. Other Seniors may well wish to join at a later date but must pay in advance of their first competition. Mike will create a spreadsheet of all payments and adjust the individual account as and when members choose to play, for example, if you lose your first game £10.00 becomes £9.00 – depending on entries and amount of prize money, if you win - £10.00 could become £15.00 and so on.

Prize money will be advised with each Kitty comp. result and the individual spreadsheet will be e-mailed out after each Thursday (end of the week). All Starter sheets will be collated for cross-checking!

When we eventually break back into the old routine up in the bar, those recipients with acquired mega-bucks will receive an envelope with their winnings and others can run down their remaining £2.00 - £3.00.


This will save handling, counting, sanitising etc. We have said that the camaraderie is at the top of the list and the banter at results time is brilliant, but it will have to go on hold for a little while longer, at least until we are all up in the bar in numbers.


Depending on the length of time distancing remains, there could well be another date for a further £10.00 payment (tbd). Members will get their results asap and eventually, their acquired prize money but not in the same way as usual.


If you want to be included, please follow all the proposed guidelines - let us know as soon as possible, so that we have an idea of interested numbers (these will naturally change on a weekly basis). More importantly – because of the “new-norm” it will be down to the individual to enter weekly, check times / teams and turn up having committed via e-mail. No Shows after e-mailing will forfeit a £1.00 entry for that competition. It is not a question of just rolling up! If you just roll up without e-mailing or after the final Seniors tee, you will be able to play but not as part of the Kitty comp!


Further Information: If you have any questions regarding any of the above suggestions please get in touch with Mike or any member of the Senior committee.


Seniors Competitions August 2020







4th Aug




Book in advance via e.mail/phone with Don or reception for late entries

Thursday 6th Aug

AUGUST MEDAL (Strokeplay              

(Men - White Tees; Ladies - Red)               

plus 9-HOLE COMPETITION (Yellow Tees)

Book in advance via e.mail/phone with Don or reception for late entries

Tuesday 11th Aug



Thursday 13th Aug

(9 x 3) plus (9 x 2)


Tuesday 18th Aug



Kitty Comp decided on day - Suggest Pairs Betterball

Thursday 20th Aug


Format = Bogey, Full Handicap, Yellow Tees

Book in advance via e.mail/phone with Don or reception for late entries

Tuesday 25th Aug



Thursday 27th Aug


Pairs – Combined Nett Strokeplay Scores from White Tees

Players can choose partners / Book with Don. HONOURS BOARD COMP.

Tuesday 1st Sept



Thursday 3rd Sept

SEPTEMBER MEDAL (Strokeplay)              

(Men - White Tees; Ladies - Red)               

plus 9-HOLE COMPETITION (Yellow Tees0

Book in advance via e.mail/phone with Don or reception for late entries


25 July, 2020

Seniors Committee meeting and minutes July 17th 2020




Committee Meeting










17 July 2020

Barry Dare



Don Wraight

Mike Healey

Steve Monk


Chris Jacques


Malcolm Williams


Tom Pierce


Peter Bowen


Mike Hollings





The meeting was conducted remotely via Zoom due to the restrictions on gathering imposed during the coronavirus pandemic.




Standing Agenda


1.    Captain’s report ( BD )

Since our last meeting on the 12th June we of course have had a gradual return to what appears to be a new normality. Things are still changing slowly but progress is gradually being made. We have had little to discuss at Council but have completed the following :-

·         Review and Publish current Clays Calendar

·         Highlight the necessity for members to pay Club Levy, this we usefully combined with Steve’s wish to finalise Seniors Section payments.

From the Senior Groups perspective, we have also had the sad news of the deaths of Dave Lloyd, Geoff Bridges, and Cliff Davies’s wife Pat, it was good to see Cliff walking the course on Monday, and I took the opportunity to wish him well and encourage him back.

We have also welcomed (but not met) two new members, Brian Cross, and Bernard Fildes.


2.    Treasurer’s report ( SM )



Since my last report there has been very little financial activity due to Covid-19.

However there have been a further 9 subscription payments, totalling £45.


A summary of this year’s finances so far are therefore as follows:


Opening Balance at Jan 1 2020                                                                                 812.99

2020 Subs Received so far (99 x £5)                                                             495.00

Additional Income                                                                                                          11.00


Sub-total                                                                                                                    1318.99


Prizes purchased for Nearly St. David’s Day Comp                                      138.36

Committee Expenses                                                                                        15.00


Current Total in Account                                                                                           1165.63



We currently have 100 paid up members (including 1 x life member).


There are 16 names on our tally list, left over from last year, who have not paid this year. Only a small handful of these are still around and playing. If you know any who have definitely left Clays or are no longer interested in playing as a member of Seniors, please let me know asap. I will also notify Secretary of any such people – thanks!


There are 8 unallocated tally numbers.


We still need to reschedule a Nearly St David’s Day competition at some time in order to recover the amount spent on prizes.



3.    Secretary’s report (CJ)

Nothing to report but see item 7 below.


4.    Match Organiser’s report (MW/TP)


I contacted Hawarden, Holywell and Mold regarding fixtures still left on the calendar: -

Hawarden - we agreed the 28th July fixture was too soon but we hope we can play on 15th Sept at Clays.  Holywell hope to be able to get a team together for 1st Sept. at Holywell ( but will offer Clays if a problem with venue!).

Mold - their Committee made a decision to cancel all matches for this season and they have decided to keep to that decision. So there is no match on 24th Sept.

If the wish is to try for another match in Sept/Oct, I am quite willing to contact Aldersey Green or Old Padeswood.


5.    Medal and Honours Board Competition Secretary’s report ( DW/PB )


At present we have 48 players in the July Medal all playing in 2 balls, with thanks to Mr. Drakeford. Messaged the timesheet for those playing on how they should score and enter their scores. I am not entirely happy with marking their own cards and then entering scores on HDID. Once entered there is no provision on verifying with the markers score. But we will have to hope they are all correct.

Senior/Vets and the 2-day challenge so far have 43/44 entering. Trying to hold back on the draw, for the Challenge days, in case we get permission to play, in larger groups. Tee times are so spread throughout the day for the Senior/Vets.

Noticing that a couple of players have pre booked tee times on competition days which will upset those who are entering those comps. I intend to dismiss them from the competitions should they enter.

August dates for competitions are: 4th Memorial Trophy: 20th D.J. Bogey and 27th Gemini the latter is in hope that we can have 4 balls.


Seniors medal 09.07.20: use of HDIDo sign-in/score entry:


56 scores entered (of which 8 scores were signed in and entered by PB)

16 members signed in by app/website.

32 members entered scores without signing in.

2 cards were posted through Irwin's letterbox.

2 cards were left in box at reception and scores emailed to PB by Don using excel score card.

One card given to PB in plastic bag by Russ who couldn't find box!


Friday: Don emailed 5 players who had played but not submitted. Two emailed scores, not using excel sheet. One lost card.  One score entered on app but did not appear to have gone through properly so verbally given over phone. By Saturday morning, one-no feedback.

Total of 2 NR entries for non-submission.

Competition finally closed and published Saturday afternoon.

6.    Kitty Competition Organiser’s report ( MH )

There have not been any competitions during the pandemic but a provisional calendar has been prepared by me monthly just in case we get the go-ahead to meet in numbers again. It will be up and running as soon as we get the go ahead.


On that note, I feel we are still a fair way from extended playing numbers. Should there be an announcement during my holiday, the Seniors have the Two-Day Challenge to occupy them and I will be ready to roll the following week but I am not holding my breath on my return.


Meeting agenda


7.    Communication with members


Committee agreed that as we are currently unable to use the Seniors’ Notice Board communication with members would be effective through the Blog, and meeting minutes would be distributed to members by email.




8.    Calendar

Committee agreed that it would not be possible to play InterClub matches in the current environment.  MW would contact the other Clubs to advise them. He had already begun discussions about dates for next year.

Committee agreed that an integral part of Memorial Day was to remember our members who had passed away and it would not be sufficient to simply hold the competition without doing so.  Our normal procedure for this would not be possible under current restrictions so it was agreed that DW would include a list of those to be remembered when advising players of tee times, and a notice would be posted by the first tee giving the same details.

Nearly St. David’s Day competition, postponed because of the restrictions earlier in the year, has been scheduled for 10th September.   Arrangements for signing in, food & drink, and prizegiving will need to decided nearer the date depending on the nature of the restrictions in force at the time.



9.    2020 Seniors Open

Captain and DW had discussed with management and it was agreed that in current conditions it would not be possible to hold the Open in safety.


10.  Handicap Qualification – Seniors Competitions

The system of submitting scores remotely was working pretty well.  DW would advise competition entrants of the step by step process for submitting scores via HowDidIDo and that players should record the scores of a playing partner as well as their own to ensure accuracy.

The World Handicapping System is still expected to come into operation from 4th November when handicaps will be based on best 8 from past 20 scores.  Until then the current system of adjusting handicaps from each individual qualifier will continue.

Link to Wales Golf explanation of the World Handicapping System : -





11.  Roy Jordan


Members had contributed generously to Roy’s farewell gift, and Clays had agreed to refund Roy’s membership subscription and DGU fees.    BD would write to Josh on behalf of the Section to express our gratitude for this.


12.  AOB


Committee agreed to meet on 28th July to discuss how we might reintroduce kitty competitions within the restrictions.   Committee members would send suggestions to The Secretary for collation before the meeting.



13.  Action Points :







AP 6


Distribute meeting minutes to members by email

23 July




Write to Josh to express gratitude for generosity re Roy Jordan

30 July




Publish guide to registering competition scores via HowDidIDo





Advise relevant Clubs that Clays Seniors will not be playing InterClub matches in 2020

30 July




Date of next meeting : 28 July 2020


Seniors 9x3 and 9x2 August 13th 2020

    Another scorcher today and the weather wasn't bad either! 38 senior members took part and the banter began to flow from the first te...