28 September, 2015

SENIORS EVENTS OCTOBER 2015


TUESDAY SEPTEMBER  29TH  TEXAS SCRAMBLE

THURSDAY OCTOBER 1ST   SENIORS MEDAL

TUESDAY OCTOBER 6TH   HOME VS UPTON SENIORS. THOSE NOT IN TEAM TO BOOK OWN TEE TIMES

THURSDAY  OCTOBER 8TH  STABLEFORD PAIRS BOTH SCORES TO COUNT

TUESDAY  OCTOBER  13TH   INDIVIDUAL STABLEFORD QUALIFIER

THURSDAY  OCTOBER  15TH    YELLOW BALL

TUESDAY  OCTOBER  20TH  GREENSOMES

THURSDAY  OCTOBER  22ND   9X3    9X2

TUESDAY  OCTOBER  27TH  TEXAS SCRAMBLE

THURSDAY  OCTOBER 29TH   PAIRS  BETTERBALL

24 September, 2015

Seniors 9x3 9x2 September 24th 2015


3-ball teams
1st - Tony Harcombe, Dave Palferman and Mike Parks with 80 points.

4-ball teams
1st - Chris Jacques, Dave Jones, Elwyn Jones, Harold Hughes with 94 points.
2nd - Peter Almond, Dilly Jones, Noel Jones, Maelor Davies with 93 points.
3rd - Mike Drake, Alwyn Williams, Graham Stokes, Ian Ketland with 89 points.

Also of note was an eagle 2 on the 13th by Tony Jackson which with his handicap shot on that hole made his net score 1 for 5 points. Derek witnessed this. He hit a great wedge in and after hitting the green went straight into the hole. Well done Tony. Apparently he did this once before in a yellow ball competition when he had the yellow ball.


23 September, 2015

Seniors stableford plus Hawarden match result September 22nd 2015



1. Stewart Poole with 41 points !!!!

2. Frank Rodenhurst 28 points

3. Graham Stokes 28 points

Stewart said he could not understand how everybody else's scores were so low. Anyone got an explanation? 

Clays Seniors team played Hawarden away and lost by 6 matches to 4.


18 September, 2015

Precis of the Rules page via Fred as of September 18th 2015

This page will be regularly updated.....enjoy.This page will be regularly updated as a new page. There is however an original rules page which will be updated at regular intervals. In the meantime see below what is already on the rules page. Thank you Fred.


1. The sheriff writes:-      So your tee shot from the 15th finds the ditch near the bridge. Most retrieve their ball and drop on a line closer to the tee. Not strictly correct, but why not use the rule correctly and give yourself a better chance:-
Take an imaginary line from the 15th pin, drawn through the point at which your ball crossed into the hazard then follow this line back, diagonal to the fairway then, under a penalty, drop on this line. This gives a better chance to clear the corner and save a shot with subsequent play of the hole.



2. 28th July 2015.

Sheriff asks:- what is a provisional ball?
Answer, a ball played under rule 27-2 for a ball that may be lost outside a hazard or out of bounds.
Often noted, players playing our 17th at Clays their tee shot played to the green is sometimes difficult to see that splash of a ball entering the pond. Player walks forward to the pond and announce they will play a provisional ball then walk around to check if their ball has in fact cleared the pond.
Any player following this procedure then finding their ball clear of the pond is subject to a two stroke penalty for playing the wrong ball (the ball incorrectly played as a provisional).  In this situation a provisional ball should not be played.You must be virtually certain your ball entered the pond, If there is doubt the best procedure at the 17th is to walk around and search making sure your ball is in the pond then back and take your penalty drop.



August 16th 2015 Sheriff blogs 3:- the last information  referred to hole 17, an issue has been  raised suggesting the possibility of a local rule which may relax the situation, however the possibility is open to interpretation, therefore I have sort clarification, my only response so far is that they will review my email.
Enough said for the moment, lets move back on the course to hole no 7. You play your 2nd shot toward the green and  the ball entered the ditch on the right of the pond and continued up the bank into the wood.

The wood is Out of Bounds therefore you are required to “play stroke and distance” you should not walk forward and drop a ball near the hazard, using Rule 26 for justification.


29/8/15 Sheriff writes. Perhaps it is splitting hairs but I often hear players say that “I declare the ball lost”. I don’t know of this expression being in the rule book, The correct statement has the same result “I declare the ball unplayable”.
When then is a ball lost? by definition a ball is lost if it is not found and identified within 5 Minute of a search. Stroke and distance being the option for a lost ball. If a provisional ball had been played this becomes the ball in play.
A player may declare his ball unplayable at anytime on the course. He may then proceed with the following option (1)“stroke and distance” (play from where last played): (2) Penalty Drop a ball within two club length of the ball’s position when declared unplayable or (3) on an imaginary line from the flag through the ball position and drop a ball on that line. In all cases not nearer the hole. 
This procedure  is often misused on the 8th where a ball flights into the hedge on the left and comes to rest well down the bank. From such a position it is virtually impossible to drop a ball within two club length on the 8th side of the hedge. To avoid walking back for stroke and distance the only options left are(2) within two club lengths on the 7th side of the hedge should conditions be met or (3) playing on a line from somewhere on the 7th fairway.

18/09/2015 Fred wrote
So you play you ball which may have gone out of bounds or unlikely to find. So you declare and play a provisional ball. Upon reaching your ball you find both very close to each other. upon checking both both are identical and you do not know which is which!. Bother! technically they are both lost balls, however there is a decision in the book that states whilst both balls are lost, it would be unreasonable to expect the player to walk back to play another ball therefore using rule 1. choose which ball you wish to play  and this is your provisional ball in play. The other is deemed to be your first ball lost. you are now playing four.

17 September, 2015

Seniors Stableford September 17th 2015 & Away match result Vs Mold



Individual stableford

1st      Peter Lynch      36  points       
2nd     Dave F Jones    35  points
3rd      Roy Jordan       34  points (countback)
4th      Joe White        34  points

Result of today's Seniors match v Mold was ...Mold 4 1/2   Clays 5 1/2

12 September, 2015

Presidents Day September 12th 2015


Richard Key had wonderful support from the members today. Although the weather was very changeable during the day it did not stop players enjoying the stableford competition. The event was a shot gun start at 9.30am,

Richard was very colour coordinated as he supervised the refreshment tent by the side of the 3rd tee.


Richards wife Jean and friend in charge  of refreshments


Results of the competition as follows:-
Overall
Position
Player
Score
Comments
Revised
Handicap
1
Clays
Overall Winner
14.6
2
Clays
Overall Runner-Up
13.1
3
Clays
Overall 3rd
3.0






·               Ladies Winner                Jane Evans
·              Senior  Winner                Dave Talbot
·              Guest   Wiiner                Daniel Roberts
·              Junior Winner                 Harry Bentley
·              P.W. Jones                     Nearest the pin men on  the second green,
·              Diane Dare                      Nearest the pin Ladies on fifth green 
·              Brian Downes                  Wooden spoon draw from the lowest six cards ( prize donated by Sam Griffiths our Pro.)
 There were 6 raffle winners, who had equal money prizes.
 The Rolling of the coin for nearest to the bottle whisky was won by John Davies at 20mm from the bottle.

The success of the day was brought about by Richard's  card scorers, Irwin Elkin & Fred Court who spent their time making the results tally.
The refreshment tent administers Jean & Ruth. new members of the ladies section. 
The Near 100 participants who braved the weather giving most of their loose change  donation to the bucket linked to the free biscuits.

The raffle, Donations, Coin roll,  Raffle. produced over 200 pounds for the heart foundation .

Seniors Medal September 10th 2015


Senior Medal
Played on Thursday, 10 September 2015 at Clays.
Competition Scratch Score = 69 (Men) 70 (Ladies). 

Great score by Nigel who won division 1 on his birthday!


Overall
Position
Player
Score
Comments
Revised
Handicap
Division 1
1
Division 1 - Winner &
Lowest Gross Score
12.0
2
Division 1 - Runner-Up
17.4
3
Division 1 - 3rd
14.9
Division 2
5
Division 2 - Winner
19.2
10
Division 2 - Runner-Up
24.0
11
Division 2 - 3rd
23.9

11 September, 2015

Seniors Yellow Ball September 8th 2015



Today's competition was a Yellow Ball competed for by 24 players. A further 20 were playing a match at Holywell and a small handful of people played at Lymm in an Open.

Results were:
1st: Frank Rodenhurst, Paul Jeffs, Dave Jones and Steve Monk - 176 points.

2nd: Bill Kelleher, Terry Jackson, Phil Morris and Dennis Jones - 159 points.


3rd: Bob Brown, Tony Jackson, Mike Parks , Graham Stokes - 157 points.

05 September, 2015

Seniors kitty competition September 3rd 2015


21 players played in the kitty comp today, playing in 3-ball teams with the 2 best stableford scores at each hole counting.

The two top teams both carded 78 points.

Winners: Nigel Davies, Reg Taylor and John Davis, with a back 9 of 41.


Runners-up: Ron Roberts, Tony Owens and Tom McGrady, back 9 of 36.

01 September, 2015

Seniors Texas Scramble September 1st 2015




Seniors Texas scramble September 1st 2015

 1 st  Ernie  Williams, Andy Mitchell, Peter  Lynch & Richard Key  56.6

 2 nd  Stewart Poole, Bob Brown, Roy Jordan & Bill Kelleher.  58.7


 3 rd.  Maelor  Davies, Nigel Davies, Mike Drake & Don Wraight.  59.7

Clays Seniors events for September 2015 plus Fred's latest rules


TUESDAY  SEPT 1ST   TEXAS SCRAMBLE

THURSDAY SEPT 3RD  9 HOLE INDIVIDUAL STABLEFORD FOR THOSE ATTENDING FUNERAL OF DAVID JONES. THE REST TO PLAY PAIRS BETTER BALL

TUESDAY  SEPT 8TH  MATCH VS HOLYWELL AWAY. THOSE AT HOME TO PLAY YELLOW BALL

THURSDAY  SEPT 10TH  SENIORS MEDAL

TUESDAY  SEPT 15TH  MATCH VS HAWARDEN AWAY. THOSE AT HOME TO PLAY GREENSOMES

THURSDAY SEPT 17TH  MATCH VS MOLD AWAY. HOME PLAYERS PLAY PAIRS BETTER BALL

TUESDAY  SEPT 22ND  INDIVIVIDUAL STABLEFORD  QUALIFIER

THURSDAYY SEPT 24TH  9X3    9X2

TUESDAY SEPT 29TH  TEXAS SCRAMBLE

THURSDAY OCTOBER 1ST  SENIORS MEDAL


Latest rules from Fred below
This page will be regularly updated.....enjoy

1. The sheriff writes:-      So your tee shot from the 15th finds the ditch near the bridge. Most retrieve their ball and drop on a line closer to the tee. Not strictly correct, but why not use the rule correctly and give yourself a better chance:-
Take an imaginary line from the 15th pin, drawn through the point at which your ball crossed into the hazard then follow this line back, diagonal to the fairway then, under a penalty, drop on this line. This gives a better chance to clear the corner and save a shot with subsequent play of the hole.



2. 28th July 2015.

Sheriff asks:- what is a provisional ball?
Answer, a ball played under rule 27-2 for a ball that may be lost outside a hazard or out of bounds.
Often noted, players playing our 17th at Clays their tee shot played to the green is sometimes difficult to see that splash of a ball entering the pond. Player walks forward to the pond and announce they will play a provisional ball then walk around to check if their ball has in fact cleared the pond.
Any player following this procedure then finding their ball clear of the pond is subject to a two stroke penalty for playing the wrong ball (the ball incorrectly played as a provisional).  In this situation a provisional ball should not be played.You must be virtually certain your ball entered the pond, If there is doubt the best procedure at the 17th is to walk around and search making sure your ball is in the pond then back and take your penalty drop.



August 16th 2015 Sheriff blogs 3:- the last information  referred to hole 17, an issue has been  raised suggesting the possibility of a local rule which may relax the situation, however the possibility is open to interpretation, therefore I have sort clarification, my only response so far is that they will review my email.
Enough said for the moment, lets move back on the course to hole no 7. You play your 2nd shot toward the green and  the ball entered the ditch on the right of the pond and continued up the bank into the wood.

The wood is Out of Bounds therefore you are required to “play stroke and distance” you should not walk forward and drop a ball near the hazard, using Rule 26 for justification.

29/8/15 Sheriff writes. Perhaps it is splitting hairs but I often hear players say that “I declare the ball lost”. I don’t know of this expression being in the rule book, The correct statement has the same result “I declare the ball unplayable”.
When then is a ball lost? by definition a ball is lost if it is not found and identified within 5 Minute of a search. Stroke and distance being the option for a lost ball. If a provisional ball had been played this becomes the ball in play.
A player may declare his ball unplayable at anytime on the course. He may then proceed with the following option (1)“stroke and distance” (play from where last played): (2) Penalty Drop a ball within two club length of the ball’s position when declared unplayable or (3) on an imaginary line from the flag through the ball position and drop a ball on that line. In all cases not nearer the hole. 
This procedure  is often misused on the 8th where a ball flights into the hedge on the left and comes to rest well down the bank. From such a position it is virtually impossible to drop a ball within two club length on the 8th side of the hedge. To avoid walking back for stroke and distance the only options left are(2) within two club lengths on the 7th side of the hedge should conditions be met or (3) playing on a line from somewhere on the 7th fairway.

Seniors 9x3 and 9x2 August 13th 2020

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