28 September, 2015
SENIORS EVENTS OCTOBER 2015
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 29TH TEXAS SCRAMBLE
THURSDAY OCTOBER 1ST SENIORS MEDAL
TUESDAY OCTOBER 6TH HOME VS UPTON SENIORS. THOSE NOT IN TEAM TO BOOK OWN TEE TIMES
THURSDAY OCTOBER 8TH STABLEFORD PAIRS BOTH SCORES TO COUNT
TUESDAY OCTOBER 13TH INDIVIDUAL STABLEFORD QUALIFIER
THURSDAY OCTOBER 15TH YELLOW BALL
TUESDAY OCTOBER 20TH GREENSOMES
THURSDAY OCTOBER 22ND 9X3 9X2
TUESDAY OCTOBER 27TH TEXAS SCRAMBLE
THURSDAY OCTOBER 29TH PAIRS BETTERBALL
24 September, 2015
Seniors 9x3 9x2 September 24th 2015
3-ball teams
1st - Tony Harcombe, Dave Palferman and Mike Parks with 80 points.
4-ball teams
1st - Chris Jacques, Dave Jones, Elwyn Jones, Harold Hughes with 94 points.
2nd - Peter Almond, Dilly Jones, Noel Jones, Maelor Davies with 93 points.
3rd - Mike Drake, Alwyn Williams, Graham Stokes, Ian Ketland with 89 points.
Also of note was an eagle 2 on the 13th by Tony Jackson which with his handicap shot on that hole made his net score 1 for 5 points. Derek witnessed this. He hit a great wedge in and after hitting the green went straight into the hole. Well done Tony. Apparently he did this once before in a yellow ball competition when he had the yellow ball.
23 September, 2015
Seniors stableford plus Hawarden match result September 22nd 2015
1. Stewart Poole with 41 points !!!!
2. Frank Rodenhurst 28 points
3. Graham Stokes 28 points
Stewart said he could not understand how everybody else's scores were so low. Anyone got an explanation?
Clays Seniors team played Hawarden away and lost by 6 matches to 4.
18 September, 2015
Precis of the Rules page via Fred as of September 18th 2015
This page will be regularly updated.....enjoy.This page will be regularly updated as a new page. There is however an original rules page which will be updated at regular intervals. In the meantime see below what is already on the rules page. Thank you Fred.
1. The sheriff writes:- So your tee shot from the 15th finds the ditch near the bridge. Most retrieve their ball and drop on a line closer to the tee. Not strictly correct, but why not use the rule correctly and give yourself a better chance:-
Take an imaginary line from the 15th pin, drawn through the point at which your ball crossed into the hazard then follow this line back, diagonal to the fairway then, under a penalty, drop on this line. This gives a better chance to clear the corner and save a shot with subsequent play of the hole.
2. 28th July 2015.
Sheriff asks:- what is a provisional ball?
Answer, a ball played under rule 27-2 for a ball that may be lost outside a hazard or out of bounds.
Often noted, players playing our 17th at Clays their tee shot played to the green is sometimes difficult to see that splash of a ball entering the pond. Player walks forward to the pond and announce they will play a provisional ball then walk around to check if their ball has in fact cleared the pond.
Any player following this procedure then finding their ball clear of the pond is subject to a two stroke penalty for playing the wrong ball (the ball incorrectly played as a provisional). In this situation a provisional ball should not be played.You must be virtually certain your ball entered the pond, If there is doubt the best procedure at the 17th is to walk around and search making sure your ball is in the pond then back and take your penalty drop.
August 16th 2015 Sheriff blogs 3:- the last information referred to hole 17, an issue has been raised suggesting the possibility of a local rule which may relax the situation, however the possibility is open to interpretation, therefore I have sort clarification, my only response so far is that they will review my email.
Enough said for the moment, lets move back on the course to hole no 7. You play your 2nd shot toward the green and the ball entered the ditch on the right of the pond and continued up the bank into the wood.
The wood is Out of Bounds therefore you are required to “play stroke and distance” you should not walk forward and drop a ball near the hazard, using Rule 26 for justification.
29/8/15 Sheriff writes. Perhaps it is splitting hairs but I often hear players say that “I declare the ball lost”. I don’t know of this expression being in the rule book, The correct statement has the same result “I declare the ball unplayable”.
29/8/15 Sheriff writes. Perhaps it is splitting hairs but I often hear players say that “I declare the ball lost”. I don’t know of this expression being in the rule book, The correct statement has the same result “I declare the ball unplayable”.
When then is a ball lost? by definition a ball is lost if it is not found and identified within 5 Minute of a search. Stroke and distance being the option for a lost ball. If a provisional ball had been played this becomes the ball in play.
A player may declare his ball unplayable at anytime on the course. He may then proceed with the following option (1)“stroke and distance” (play from where last played): (2) Penalty Drop a ball within two club length of the ball’s position when declared unplayable or (3) on an imaginary line from the flag through the ball position and drop a ball on that line. In all cases not nearer the hole.
This procedure is often misused on the 8th where a ball flights into the hedge on the left and comes to rest well down the bank. From such a position it is virtually impossible to drop a ball within two club length on the 8th side of the hedge. To avoid walking back for stroke and distance the only options left are(2) within two club lengths on the 7th side of the hedge should conditions be met or (3) playing on a line from somewhere on the 7th fairway.
18/09/2015 Fred wrote
So you play you ball which may have gone out of bounds or unlikely to find. So you declare and play a provisional ball. Upon reaching your ball you find both very close to each other. upon checking both both are identical and you do not know which is which!. Bother! technically they are both lost balls, however there is a decision in the book that states whilst both balls are lost, it would be unreasonable to expect the player to walk back to play another ball therefore using rule 1. choose which ball you wish to play and this is your provisional ball in play. The other is deemed to be your first ball lost. you are now playing four.
18/09/2015 Fred wrote
So you play you ball which may have gone out of bounds or unlikely to find. So you declare and play a provisional ball. Upon reaching your ball you find both very close to each other. upon checking both both are identical and you do not know which is which!. Bother! technically they are both lost balls, however there is a decision in the book that states whilst both balls are lost, it would be unreasonable to expect the player to walk back to play another ball therefore using rule 1. choose which ball you wish to play and this is your provisional ball in play. The other is deemed to be your first ball lost. you are now playing four.
17 September, 2015
Seniors Stableford September 17th 2015 & Away match result Vs Mold
Individual stableford
1st Peter Lynch 36 points
2nd Dave F Jones 35 points
3rd Roy Jordan 34 points (countback)
Result of today's Seniors match v Mold was ...Mold 4 1/2 Clays 5 1/2
16 September, 2015
Clays Seniors Stableford Qualifier Tuesday September 15th 2015
| Overall Position | Player | Score | Comments | Revised Handicap |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Division 1 | ||||
| 1 | Wraight, Don | 39 pts (11) | Division 1 - Winner | 10.4 |
| 2 | Barratt, John | 37 pts (16) | Division 1 - Runner-Up | 15.6 |
| 3 | Harcombe, Tony | 36 pts (15) | Division 1 - 3rd | 15.4 |
| 4 | White, Paul | 36 pts (18) | 17.7 | |
| 5 | Rodenhurst, Frank | 33 pts (10) | 10.2 | |
12 September, 2015
Presidents Day September 12th 2015
Richard Key had wonderful support from the members today. Although the weather was very changeable during the day it did not stop players enjoying the stableford competition. The event was a shot gun start at 9.30am,
Richard was very colour coordinated as he supervised the refreshment tent by the side of the 3rd tee.
 |
| Richards wife Jean and friend in charge of refreshments |
Results of the competition as follows:-
Overall
Position |
Player
|
Score
|
Comments
|
Revised
Handicap |
1
|
Clays
|
Overall Winner
|
14.6
|
|
2
|
Clays
|
Overall Runner-Up
|
13.1
|
|
3
|
Clays
|
Overall 3rd
|
3.0
|
·
Ladies Winner Jane
Evans
·
Senior Winner Dave
Talbot
·
Guest Wiiner Daniel Roberts
·
Junior Winner Harry
Bentley
· P.W. Jones Nearest the pin
men on the second green,
· Diane Dare Nearest the pin
Ladies on fifth green
· Brian Downes Wooden spoon draw from the lowest six
cards ( prize donated by Sam Griffiths our Pro.)
There
were 6 raffle winners, who had equal money prizes.
The
Rolling of the coin for nearest to the bottle whisky was won by John Davies at 20mm from the bottle.
The success of the day was brought about by Richard's card scorers, Irwin Elkin &
Fred Court who spent their time making the results tally.
The refreshment tent administers Jean & Ruth. new members of the
ladies section.
The Near 100 participants who braved the weather giving most of their loose change donation to the bucket linked to the free biscuits.
The raffle, Donations, Coin
roll, Raffle. produced over 200 pounds for the heart foundation .
Seniors Medal September 10th 2015
Senior
Medal
Played on Thursday,
10 September 2015 at Clays.
Competition Scratch Score = 69 (Men) 70 (Ladies).
Competition Scratch Score = 69 (Men) 70 (Ladies).
Great score by Nigel who won division 1 on his birthday!
|
Overall
Position |
Player
|
Score
|
Comments
|
Revised
Handicap |
||
|
Division 1
|
||||||
|
1
|
Division 1 - Winner &
Lowest Gross Score |
12.0
|
||||
|
2
|
Division 1 - Runner-Up
|
17.4
|
||||
|
3
|
Division 1 - 3rd
|
14.9
|
||||
|
Division 2
|
||||||
|
5
|
Division 2 - Winner
|
19.2
|
||||
|
10
|
Division 2 - Runner-Up
|
24.0
|
||||
|
11
|
Division 2 - 3rd
|
23.9
|
||||
11 September, 2015
Seniors Yellow Ball September 8th 2015
Today's competition was a Yellow Ball competed for by 24 players. A further 20 were playing a match at Holywell and a small handful of people played at Lymm in an Open.
Results were:
1st: Frank Rodenhurst, Paul Jeffs, Dave Jones and Steve Monk - 176 points.
2nd: Bill Kelleher, Terry Jackson, Phil Morris and Dennis Jones - 159 points.
3rd: Bob Brown, Tony Jackson, Mike Parks , Graham Stokes - 157 points.
05 September, 2015
Seniors kitty competition September 3rd 2015
21 players played in the kitty comp today, playing in 3-ball teams with the 2 best stableford scores at each hole counting.
The two top teams both carded 78 points.
Winners: Nigel Davies, Reg Taylor and John Davis, with a back 9 of 41.
Runners-up: Ron Roberts, Tony Owens and Tom McGrady, back 9 of 36.
01 September, 2015
Seniors Texas Scramble September 1st 2015
Seniors Texas scramble September 1st 2015
1 st Ernie Williams, Andy Mitchell, Peter Lynch
& Richard Key 56.6
2 nd Stewart Poole, Bob Brown, Roy Jordan & Bill Kelleher.
58.7
3 rd. Maelor Davies, Nigel Davies, Mike Drake &
Don Wraight. 59.7
Clays Seniors events for September 2015 plus Fred's latest rules
TUESDAY SEPT 1ST TEXAS SCRAMBLE
THURSDAY SEPT 3RD 9 HOLE INDIVIDUAL STABLEFORD FOR THOSE ATTENDING FUNERAL OF DAVID JONES. THE REST TO PLAY PAIRS BETTER BALL
TUESDAY SEPT 8TH MATCH VS HOLYWELL AWAY. THOSE AT HOME TO PLAY YELLOW BALL
THURSDAY SEPT 10TH SENIORS MEDAL
TUESDAY SEPT 15TH MATCH VS HAWARDEN AWAY. THOSE AT HOME TO PLAY GREENSOMES
THURSDAY SEPT 17TH MATCH VS MOLD AWAY. HOME PLAYERS PLAY PAIRS BETTER BALL
TUESDAY SEPT 22ND INDIVIVIDUAL STABLEFORD QUALIFIER
THURSDAYY SEPT 24TH 9X3 9X2
TUESDAY SEPT 29TH TEXAS SCRAMBLE
THURSDAY OCTOBER 1ST SENIORS MEDAL
Latest rules from Fred below
This page will be regularly updated.....enjoy
1. The sheriff writes:- So your tee shot from the 15th finds the ditch near the bridge. Most retrieve their ball and drop on a line closer to the tee. Not strictly correct, but why not use the rule correctly and give yourself a better chance:-
Take an imaginary line from the 15th pin, drawn through the point at which your ball crossed into the hazard then follow this line back, diagonal to the fairway then, under a penalty, drop on this line. This gives a better chance to clear the corner and save a shot with subsequent play of the hole.
2. 28th July 2015.
Sheriff asks:- what is a provisional ball?
Answer, a ball played under rule 27-2 for a ball that may be lost outside a hazard or out of bounds.
Often noted, players playing our 17th at Clays their tee shot played to the green is sometimes difficult to see that splash of a ball entering the pond. Player walks forward to the pond and announce they will play a provisional ball then walk around to check if their ball has in fact cleared the pond.
Any player following this procedure then finding their ball clear of the pond is subject to a two stroke penalty for playing the wrong ball (the ball incorrectly played as a provisional). In this situation a provisional ball should not be played.You must be virtually certain your ball entered the pond, If there is doubt the best procedure at the 17th is to walk around and search making sure your ball is in the pond then back and take your penalty drop.
August 16th 2015 Sheriff blogs 3:- the last information referred to hole 17, an issue has been raised suggesting the possibility of a local rule which may relax the situation, however the possibility is open to interpretation, therefore I have sort clarification, my only response so far is that they will review my email.
Enough said for the moment, lets move back on the course to hole no 7. You play your 2nd shot toward the green and the ball entered the ditch on the right of the pond and continued up the bank into the wood.
The wood is Out of Bounds therefore you are required to “play stroke and distance” you should not walk forward and drop a ball near the hazard, using Rule 26 for justification.
29/8/15 Sheriff writes. Perhaps it is splitting hairs but I often hear players say that “I declare the ball lost”. I don’t know of this expression being in the rule book, The correct statement has the same result “I declare the ball unplayable”.
When then is a ball lost? by definition a ball is lost if it is not found and identified within 5 Minute of a search. Stroke and distance being the option for a lost ball. If a provisional ball had been played this becomes the ball in play.
A player may declare his ball unplayable at anytime on the course. He may then proceed with the following option (1)“stroke and distance” (play from where last played): (2) Penalty Drop a ball within two club length of the ball’s position when declared unplayable or (3) on an imaginary line from the flag through the ball position and drop a ball on that line. In all cases not nearer the hole.
This procedure is often misused on the 8th where a ball flights into the hedge on the left and comes to rest well down the bank. From such a position it is virtually impossible to drop a ball within two club length on the 8th side of the hedge. To avoid walking back for stroke and distance the only options left are(2) within two club lengths on the 7th side of the hedge should conditions be met or (3) playing on a line from somewhere on the 7th fairway.
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