Site to be used to post Clays Seniors section news about Seniors kitty Competitions and news of interest to the Seniors section at Clays Golf Club, near Wrexham. If any member wishes for news to be posted and or photos please contact Derek at dglyon9@aol.com
29 December, 2018
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL THE SENIORS from Derek
TO ALL THE SENIORS WISHING YOU A VERY PROSPEROUS AND HEALTHY 2019
Derek wishes to thank all those that supply him with results for this blog when he is away.
Best wishes
Derek Del.
27 December, 2018
Individual Stableford December 27th 2018
Thank you to our Senior Captain Don Wraight for the following report:-
21 players today playing an individual stableford.
Course playing well greens ok and a bit sticky in places but very nice.
1st. Mike Ryan 39pts
2nd Dave A Jones 38pts
3rd Barry Dare 37pts
4th Joe White 36pts
5th Dave Lloyd 35 pts
20 December, 2018
3 Clubs and a putter December 20th 2018
Thank you to Tom McGrady for the following report.
We had a much better turnout today due to more favourable weather conditions. The course was very damp and a bit muddy after the overnight rain but was very playable.
30 members played “3 clubs and a putter” and there were 6 prizes as follows:
1st - Malcolm Williams with 42 points
2nd - Dave A Jones with 37 points (better back 9)
3rd - Dilly Jones with 37 points
4th - Tom McGrady with 35 points (best back 9)
5th - Mike Drake with 35 points (better back 9)
6th Dave Palferman with 35 points
After the results we all sang “Happy Birthday To You” for our club President Bob Brown who is 74 today.
Derek wishes all our Senior members a very Happy Xmas and a very healthy New Year.
18 December, 2018
9 hole stableford December 18th 2018
Despite the weather forecast for today 12 seniors turned up to play but only 9 actually went out (see above photos).
We played a 9 hole individual stableford competition in teams of 3 on the clubhouse side of the course. The weather
was a little damp but not enough to put us off.
The 9 were;
Alan Bleasdale, Colin Brown and myself.
John Falcus, Mike Parks, Mike Turner
Andrew Mitchell, Barry Dare, Peter Taylor
There were 3 prizes as follows:
1st was John Falcus with 18 points
2nd was Colin Brown with 17 points
3rd was Barry Dare with 16 points
Everyone enjoyed some tasty fare from Hayley before going home.
14 December, 2018
Seniors Stableford played under the new rules December 13th 2018
Thank you to Steve Monk for supplying the following results.
Today we played an individual stableford competition, under the new rules to come in permanently on Jan 1st 2019. 38 seniors played in cold but dry conditions.
Results were as follows:
1st - Ralph Hardy with 38 points.
2nd - Damian Atkin also with 38 points (on countback).
3rd - Nigel Davies with 37 points.
4th - Malcolm Williams with 36 points.
5th - Keith Hawthorn also with 36 points (on countback).
6th - Mike Healey with 35 points.
7th - Ivan Corlett also with 35 points (on countback).
12 December, 2018
Seniors Xmas Party December 11th 2018
Derek is indebted to Don Wraight and Mike Parkes for submitting the following photos and results:-
9 hole texas scramble from tees on clubhouse side 1st,16th and on the other side of the course tees 5th and 10th.
Course in great condition for December with the greens having been cut on Monday and all bunkers raked.
1st place on the clubhouse side
Ryan Anthony. Dilly Jones, Phil Gee and Dave Jones total of 27.65
2nd. Alan Bottomley, Russ Adamson, Liam Roddis and Mike Ryan 30.4
Far side
Winners were Steve Monk, Mike Kalka, Ralph Hardy and Chris Jacques 26.75
2nd Harold Hughes, Geoff Morris Mike Carnell and Graham Davidson-Clarke 29.4
Following the golf we were presented with a lovely turkey dinner with all the trimming and Christmas pud. Meal was fantastic and enjoyed by all.
Wine and beer flowed and everyone had a great time.
Steve Beech devised a general knowledge quiz to tax us all.
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| Mark receiving the collection made for him and Greenstaff on behalf of Seniors Section. |
07 December, 2018
Seniors Medal Stableford December 6th 2018
Some great scores were carded today. Results as follows:-
- Andrew Mitchell 43 points won with 1 birdie and 8 pars in a card play off from....
- Graham Bryne 43 points
- Michael Ryan 41 points
- Dave Palferman 41 points
- Ernie Williams 39 points
- Tom Pierce 39 points
- Tom McGrady 38 points
- Dilly Jones 37 points
- Mike Turner 37 points
- Bob Brown 35 points
- Don Wraight (Senior Captain) 35 points
04 December, 2018
9 Hole Texas scramble and Seniors AGM December 4th 2018
43 Members competed in today's Texas scramble
Teams played in 2 events. Those on near side of the road and those on far side of the road.
Results on nearside:-
- Frank Rodenhurst, Harold Hughes, Stuart Leyland and Bob Brown 31.05
- Mike Healey, Mike Griffiths, Alan Bottomley and Nigel Davies 33,2
Results on farside:-
- Don Wraight, Mick Carnell, Dilly Jones and Cliff Davies 28.65
- Noel Jones, Mike Hollings, Reg Peacock and Malcolm Williams 29.9
03 December, 2018
More golf rules from Fred November 3rd 2018
Sheriffs Blog 2/12/2018. Having blogged on many accessions and advised on action not permitted within the rules, it looks like the new rules will reverse some of that advice.
The first example that comes to mind is the rules on a provisional ball Rule 18.3. The rules advise under R18.3a; a Provisional ball is allowed when a ball may be lost outside of a “Penalty area” {water Hazard} or out of Bounds, to save time a player may play a Provisional ball under “stroke and distance”.
This applies {1} to a ball not yet found and identified and is not yet lost state or {2} when a ball might be lost in a penalty area but also might be lost elsewhere on the course, but if the player is aware that the only possible place the original ball could be lost is in a “Penalty area” a provisional ball is not allowed and any ball played from where the previous ball was played becomes the ball in play under a penalty of stroke and distance.
Confused?
Don’t worry because the rules go on to advise situations a provisional ball may be played.
Under R18.3a1 a provisional ball may be played {1} The original ball might be in a penalty area but might also be lost outside the “Penalty area” or out of bounds.{2} The player believes the original ball came to rest in the “general area” and it might be lost. If it is later found in a “Penalty area” within the three minute search time the player must abandon the provisional ball.
R18.3a/2 a player may play a provisional ball for a ball that might be lost when the original ball has not been found and identified even if the 3 minute search time has not yet ended. [This is a change from previous rules as this now allows the player to walk back within the 3 minutes and play a provisional ball. If the original ball is found within the 3 minute search time the player must continue with the original ball]
R18.3a/3 When a player plays multiple balls from the same spot, each ball relates only to the previous ball played.
R18.3b Before the stroke is made; the player must announce they are playing a provisional ball.
[It is not enough for the player to only say they are going to “play another ball” or “playing again”. The player must use the word “Provisional”.
If the player does not announce this even if it is the intention and plays a ball from where the previous ball is played, that ball is the players ball in play under a stroke and distance.
Examples valid for announcement of a provisional ball include “I’m playing a ball under rule 18.3” or “I’m going to play another just in case.”
Announcements not accepted as a clear indication of a provisional ball include “I’m going to reload” or “I’m going to play another”. The Sheriff
30 November, 2018
Seniors events December 2018
SENIORS
COMPETITIONS – DECEMBER 2018
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DATE
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KITTY COMPS – in BLUE
OTHER
COMPS – in BLACK
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COMMENTS
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Tuesday Dec 4th
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9-Hole Texas
Scramble followed by A.G.M. at approx. 12 noon.
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Please make
every effort to be at the AGM - Thanks
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Thursday Dec 6th
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DECEMBER ‘MEDAL’ (Stableford, Yellow Tees)
plus 9-HOLE
COMPETITION
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Draw is on Club
Website Booking Page
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Tuesday Dec 11th
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9-Hole
***XMAS PARTY***
NOT
TO BE MISSED!
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Cost £15 to include comp fee and party; liquid prizes; Xmas
dinner; free wine at table; free draw for those who have paid their subs in
advance;
great company.
Dress Code – Jacket and Tie
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Thursday Dec 13th
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INDIVIDUAL STABLEFORD
PLAYED UNDER NEW RULES (WHICH WILL BE
FULLY APPLICABLE FROM JAN 1ST )
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This is to enable us to sample a game under the new
rules. It would be useful to look these up before the game!
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Tuesday Dec 18th
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PAIRS BETTERBALL
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Thursday Dec 20th
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3 CLUBS AND A PUTTER
You can choose any 3 clubs plus your
putter, so a maximum of 4 clubs in your bag
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Individual Stableford
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Tuesday Dec 25th
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IT’S CHRISTMAS DAY
So stop thinking about golf!!
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Thursday Dec 27th
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‘9 x 3’ PLUS ‘9 X 2’
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Tuesday Jan 1st
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NEW YEAR’S DAY
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If you want to
play today, book your own tee if available
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Thursday Jan 3rd
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JANUARY MEDAL plus
9-HOLE COMPETITION
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Entries via
usual notice on board.
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More golf rules from Fred November 30th 2018
More golf rules from Fred
Sheriffs Blog 30/11/2018. Rule 7.4 covers the accidental moving of the ball during a search or identification. Provided the ball is replaced to its original or estimated original position there is no penalty for moving the ball, breaching this rule however does earns a general penalty.
Rule 10.1b covers the anchoring the club, except anchoring a club against the forearm a player shall not anchor a club against any part of the body nor indirectly by anchoring a forearm against the body to create a stable point for the swing.
Rule 13.2a covers leaving the flagstick in the hole. This rule gives the player an option to leave the flagstick in the hole when putting.
However this rule requires a good read as there are new situations which will give a player penalty strokes avoidable if the player sticks to their choice to {1} leave the flagstick in the hole; {2} have the flag attended; or {3} have the flag removed
November 29th 2018 no kitty competition
Despite the wind and rain over the last couple of days, we're pleased to inform you that the course is standing up well and is OPEN today 29th November
The 2nd and 11th holes are on temps but the rest of the greens are open for play.
As you will appreciate the ground is wet in places and therefore BUGGIES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
The range, bar and restaurant are open as normal and we look forward to seeing you soon.
Regards,
Golf Reception Team
I understand no one from the Seniors went out for the kitty competition.
29 November, 2018
Golf rules via Fred November 29th 2018
Sheriff’s Blog 29/11/18 with reference to your testing a game against the new rules will be difficult unless members read the new rule book.
For example, the rules have introduced some new terminologies such as “Penalty area” and “Relief area”. My understanding is a “Penalty area” includes water hazards and any area marked by the committee as a penalty area. There has been subtle changes to the rules for example on playing a provisional ball which basically remain as before but have exceptions to obscure water hazards and allows a player new options previously not permitted, see rule 18.3 provisional ball; A Relief Area.
So what is a relief area?
Free relief; If you mark the position for your ball to established the nearest point of relief when taking a free drop under a relevant ruling.
The relief area is the “D” shaped semi circle or quadrant area around this ball position, scribed by a radius of one club length arc, none of this area shall be nearer the hole than the reference point of relief marked.
In all cases the ball can no longer be dropped from Shoulder height, it shall be dropped from Knee height, the definition of knee height is the height of your knee when standing upright, you cannot squat and lower your knee height to drop the ball from a lower position. The ball when dropped correctly must strike the ground and also come to rest within the relief area. This is a change from the ball bouncing up to two club lengths not nearer the hole.
In the case of an unplayable ball there is another change if you take the option of measuring two club-lengths from the ball.
Previously we measured from the ball two club lengths then dropped the ball which could bounce up to two club lengths not nearer the hole.
Under the new rules, the relief area for a ball unplayable is the “D” shaped semi circle area around the unplayable position of the ball, not nearer the hole as scribed by a radius of two club-lengths around that position, even though much of the relief area may offer a further unplayable position, making an additional drop possible should you continue with this option or you may take one of the other two options available, {1} back on the line or {2} stroke and distance in these two cases the relief area changes back to a one club length arc.
This may have confused you enough for now. Sheriff
27 November, 2018
Second round of Seniors Winter League November 27th 2018
Thank you to Steve Monk for supplying the following report.
Today was the 2nd round of the Seniors Winter League. 34 players turned up to compete and started off in very cold but dry conditions. After the first hour the weather turned wet and shortly afterwards it was pouring down with rain. Some players decided to abandon their rounds and return to the warm clubhouse but around 30 players completed although they were mostly very wet and very cold. Considering the weather there were some creditable scores recorded and the results were as follows -
1st - scoring 10 points in the league, Alan Bottomley with 38 stableford points.
2nd - 9 points, Dave Palferman with 34.
3rd - 8 points, Reg Peacock with 33.
4th - 7 points, Tony Owens with 31.
5th - 6 points, Dilly Jones also with 31.
6th - 5 points, Harold Hughes also with 31.
7th - 4 points, Andy Mitchell with 30.
8th - 3 points, Martin Povey also with 30.
9th - 2 points, Steve Monk also with 30.
10th - 1 point, Keith Hawthorn also with 30.
Players with identical scored were separated by the usual countback method.
22 November, 2018
Yellow Ball November 22nd 2018
Thanks to Nigel Davies for sending in these results. Derek was tucked up warm in bed when the lads teed off!!
27 Seniors turned up on a cold, crisp morning to play a Yellow Ball competition.
Results as follows :
1st Alan Bottomley, Alan Barnsdale and Bob Jarvis 132pts
2nd Keith Hawthorn, Tony Owens and Don Wraight 129pts
3rd Andrew Mitchell, Peter Fey and Steve Beech 126pts
20 November, 2018
Pairs betterball November 20th 2018
What a cold and damp day today. Results as follows
We had 41 players today but managed to make up 21 pairs by using one player to play for two different pairs. Pairs betterball was the format and I think most players managed to be back in the clubhouse before the heavy rain started. Results were:
1st - Andy Mitchell and Tony Jackson, with 44 points. (Back 9 = 24)
2nd - Chris Jacques and Steve Monk, also with 44 points. (Back 9 = 22)
3rd - Don Wraight and Malcolm Williams with 43 points.
4th - Tom McGrady and Dave Palferman with 41 points. (Back 9 = 21)
5th - Graham Bryne and Mike Kalka also with 41 points. (Back 9 = 19)
19 November, 2018
15 November, 2018
Texas scramble November 15th 2018
Today the event was played with teams of 3 and teams of 4. Each team had to have 3 drives per person.
Results as follows:-
- Keith Jones, Bill Kelleher and Malcolm Williams 55.1 This team had a 2 on the 2nd hole, a 2 on the 5th, a 3 on the 16th a 2 on the 12th
- Mike Ryan, Alan Bottomley, Colin Brown and Noel Jones 59.1
- Andrew Mitchell, Chris Jaques, Dave Palferman and Roy Jordan 60.3
Some videos and photos taken on the day below
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| Don Wraight's practice swing on 10th fairway |
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| Don lining up to take his 2nd shot on the 10th |
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| View down 11th fairway |
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| Large tree to left of 11th fairway |
13 November, 2018
Winter League round one November 13th 2018
Thank you to Steve Monk for the following results:-
Today was the 1st round of this season's Winter League. 45 members completed 18 holes of an individual stableford competition, the course still being in good condition for the time of year. As previously, at each of the six rounds held during the winter, the winner receives 10 league points, 2nd receives 9 points, and so on until the 10th ranked player receives 1 point. All points earned in the 6 rounds are totalled, and at the end of the 6th round, the player with the most points wins the whole event.
Today's results were:
1st - with a score of 37 stableford points, Stewart Poole, earning 10 league points.
2nd - also with 37 on countback, Martin Povey, 9 points.
3rd - with 36, Dave F Jones, 8 points.
4th - also with 36 on countback, Dilly Jones, 7 points.
5th - with 35, Cliff Davies, 6 points.
6th - with 33, Alan Barnsdale, 5 points.
7th - also with 33 on countback, Mike Ryan, 4 points.
8th - with 32, Harold Hughes, 3 points.
9th - with 31, Dave Palferman, 2 points.
10th - also with 31 on countback, Mick Carnell, 1 point.
See below a photo courtesy of Mike Parks showing Peter Bowen playing his 2nd shot on the 13th
08 November, 2018
Ken Lawrence Memorial Trophy and Poppy competition November 8th 2018
This popular annual event originally developed by the late Seniors Captain Ken Lawrence attracted 37 Seniors today with all proceeds going in aid of the Royal British Legion. A total of £310 was raised comprising entrance fees and raffle monies.
The winner today was Mike Carnell with a very creditable 36 points.....19 on front 9 and 17 on back nine.
2 of Ken's daughters Cathy and Sandra attended to present the Trophy along with Don Wraight, Seniors Captain.
Stewart Poole had a disaster on the 2nd hole. His first ball disappeared into the deep ditch to the left of the hole. He took a provisional and then proceeded to try and find his original! That he did but before he could retrieve it and take a 2 club length drop he managed to get badly scratched by brambles. The photos shows Stewart scrambling for his ball!!
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